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THANKS2U

LoanSafe Member
Thank you Davephx

for the www link and your "A home loan named desire" below -

GREAT INSPIRATIONAL WRITING !!!

Gov't unveils rules to speed up 'short sales' - CNBC


A Home Loan Named Desire - By Davephx

No rest for the weary goes the saying. And in America these days, little help for troubled homeowners. The U.S. economy continues to shrink through growing unemployment and subsequent foreclosures. Congress urgently needs to find an effective remedy that will appease both financial institutions and the taxpaying public. Against a backdrop of Tennessee William's harsh social commentary, GoodB blogger Monika Mitchell reports on mortgage modification in the U.S.

Highlights of info not already commonly reported:

It’s official. The “save the drowning homeowner who got burned plan†aka the “Home Affordable Modification Program (HAMP)†is a Big Fat Dud. Only 2,000 (less than half a percent) have been permanently modified-a remarkable feat of failure only George W would envy.

The ten month old program offers lenders $1000 per year for up to three years if they modify a loan. Mortgage servicers make far more than that in late fees alone. The banks with these loans on their books must be laughing at the paltry sum in the wake of the tens of thousands of dollars they stand to make in foreclosure. Investor pools that hold mortgage securities and hide behind the servicers and banks would lose millions. In response, they slither away out of the public eye and simply ignore the Obama administration’s call to make homes “affordable.â€

There is no legally binding, real financial incentive, or even official threat to participate, so why bother say lenders? Hence the U.S. “Making Home Affordable†plan is a miserable failure. It is all bark and no bite.

Why bother indeed? Lenders might step up because they want to help their fellow countrymen? Let’s just forget that. How about doing it for the sake of the housing market, the economy, the country? No thanks, lenders say.

The HAMP program is not backed by any strings, nor is it mandated by any official agency, nor are there any penalties for noncompliance.

Lenders have embarked on a clear strategy of “let me string these idiots along as long as I can and maybe the Feds will look the other way.†These bad banks have “lost†paperwork, hung up the phones, put customers on indefinite “hold,†ignored borrowers, lied to borrowers, and generally run bureaucratic rings around them in an ultimate goal of foreclosure and default.

The New York Times reported this week, “$75 Billion Federal Push to Stem Foreclosures Is Falling Short.†The U.S. Assistant Treasury Secretary for financial Institutions, Michael Barr states, “The banks are not doing a good enough job.†That just might be the understatement of the year. He continued, “Some of the firms ought to be embarrassed, some will be.†Embarrassed? Banks? If “shame†were an effective factor in banking, we would not be in this mess.

So what is taking the Federal Reserve, the Treasury Department, and both houses of Congress so long to play their hand? Must we k“iss the backside of banks forever? Isn’t there some point when reason and rational thinking takes over?

The increased number of at-risk-homeowners directly corresponds to unemployment. As jobs continue to disappear and incomes continue to shrink, the number of defaulting loans grows.

Tens of millions of Americans have lost their incomes and are struggling to pull themselves out of the hole these bucket shop lenders created. Defaults are no longer limited to credit-marred borrowers. The new wave of failing loans has reached formerly credit-worthy borrowers with traditional 30year fixed rate mortgages.

Millions of at-risk homeowners are out of money and out of time. Like Blanche, they find themselves in “desperate circumstances†with only a phantom Shep Huntliegh to rescue them.

What is Congress waiting for? Hopefully not the Feds and hopefully not lenders.

Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love, has lived up to its name recently. City officials have created a proactive mortgage modification program that forces lenders and borrowers to negotiate in a “conciliation conference.†Volunteer lawyers have succeeded in helping 70% of troubled homeowners with mortgage modifications.

What sets the program apart from the fluffy Fed program are the forced face-to-face foreclosure hearings. The New York Times reports that in Philadelphia, “Mortgage companies have no choice but to participate. They have to attend the conferences and negotiate in good faith or they cannot proceed with a sheriff’s sale.â€

The success of the Philadelphians has inspired New York State lawmakers to follow suit. The state legislature is currently debating a bill to enforce compliance from lenders.

Thank you again Davephx
 

THANKS2U

LoanSafe Member
Thanks again Davephx

Hope you don't mind me posting articles you have found yourself.

I just want to get as many posts into 1 area as possible so all your hard work and everyone elses does not get lost in the scrolling ladder of time.

Are Lenders "Cherry Picking" Loan Modifications for Homeowners Facing Foreclosure?

A documented example regarding IndyMac but seems common amoung most servicers

Detailed article at
Are Lenders "Cherry Picking" Loan Modifications for Homeowners Facing Foreclosure? - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com


Why Have Home Mortgage Modifications Been So Difficult? Ask Sheriff Green - CBS MoneyWatch.com

Thank you Davephx
 

davephx

LoanSafe Member
As I often point out lets cast blame where it should go.

Obama/Treasury have little enforcement power and are doing all they can do by the shame game but so far its not working. This week they did an all out attempt threatening to fine etc (but some reports ask where they get such authority).

The blame is CONGRESS... needs to modify the HAMP law and REQUIRE the HAMP directives be followed rather than the "directives" and "recommendations" on what "should" be done. Treasury/Obama seems to be giving the banks a last chance but I fear the bark from Treasury/Obama is without much power to bite, unless it is given to Treasury by Congress.
 

davephx

LoanSafe Member
That is fine... I post general articles in the Modification Section since applies to most and doesn't get lost in this huge thread.

But welcome my posts to be reposted as desired... Appreciate the credit as you do for my finding and posting. I want to world to know the issues so many here have documented with most all the servicers. And word is getting out.

We are no longer alone - because of a lot of screaming to the media and regulators by many of us here, the problem is becoming well known. Media is on it which is what we need to apply pressure to servicers and Congress to DO SOMETHING...

The failure of HAMP effects the entire economy - housing started the crisis and we need to deal with Housing before the crisis will end.
 

THANKS2U

LoanSafe Member
As I often point out lets cast blame where it should go.

Obama/Treasury have little enforcement power and are doing all they can do by the shame game but so far its not working. This week they did an all out attempt threatening to fine etc (but some reports ask where they get such authority).

The blame is CONGRESS... needs to modify the HAMP law and REQUIRE the HAMP directives be followed rather than the "directives" and "recommendations" on what "should" be done. Treasury/Obama seems to be giving the banks a last chance but I fear the bark from Treasury/Obama is without much power to bite, unless it is given to Treasury by Congress.
Sadly so true Davephx

And with the criminals at Bank of America paying back their TARP funds within the next few months, hopes of any modifications from B of A will be met with corrupt & cruel, heckling & laughing at the distressed homeowners and a prompt letter to foreclosure if all payments are not current and or on time.

"There oughta be law" that FORCES any TARP taking bank to immediately modify loans for ANY distressed homeowners period.

31 % PITIA for the life of the loan PERIOD !

There are plenty / Millions & Millions of future / of coming of age home buyers, who the banks can legally get into higher interest rate loans and both the bank and the coming of age home buyers will be good to go.

But for us defrauded and discriminated against borrowers, enough is enough and the 31 % PITIA, fixed for life, is a lawful must and if the banks need to go down to 1 % and or provide BIG reduced principals, then so be it.

The Banking Institutions caused all of this Mortgage Financial Crisis and they must be forced, BY LAW, to CURE IT IMMEDIATELY !

Thanks for all you insightful input Davephx

Respectfully,

Thanks2U
 

Melanie702

LoanSafe Member
This is really F'd up, but true....

"The ONLY TRUE reason Bank of America is paying back TARP is because they do not want to be FORCED into the accountability of providing Sustainable Permanent Loan Modifications."

I knew that was why they were paying back. That's really sad. I guess after my forbearance, I'm S.O.L. Oh well, like you said, hope karma is true. Now so many more are going to lose their houses. They don't want to help anyone. It is just a business. Money money money.
 

davephx

LoanSafe Member
She's only on a trial mod.......just like everyone else.

It is a good clip that points out its not permanent and the pressure by Obama to get may converted permanent by year-end.

If HAMP doesn't get to the goal of what 675,000 by year-end hopefully this may be more pressure on Congress to Act since only they have the power to to more than pressure and shame the banks which so far has not worked.
 

davephx

LoanSafe Member
To me its not the 31% fixed for life, but just follow how HAMP is suppose to work. 5-years before rate of as low as 2% increases by 1% up to todays current market rate. That seems fair and gives time for wages to increase etc.

Today the average 30 year interest rate reached the lowest level in history (forget exact amount but about 4.8%) We have banks making new loans to a lot of young folks who are first time homebuyers and giving them the credit at the detriment to us that are desperately trying to keep our dear homes but have had often once in a lifetime economic hardship at no fault of our own.
 

THANKS2U

LoanSafe Member
Link From davephx

Mortgage Modification Attorney Bank of America


Dave

I want to say I appreciate ALL Your direct and factual observations of how & why THEY are allowed to get away with THEIR Corrupt Banking Plunderings & Conniving Billigerant Politics

It is imperative to those of us who have been Defrauded by the Criminal & Unethical Banking Institutions & By The Predatory Politicians, to know who we are truly fighting and what we are really up against

Truthful Information is needed to bring them all Down to a point where CONGRESS, as you have stated, being the only entity who can pass laws, will be forced by "we the people," to enact LAWS that force Banks, Servicers and Investors to do the right thing. Which is to MODIFY SUSTAINABLE MORTGAGES for all distressed borrowers, following uncomplicated, fast track guidelines

"We the People," are factually the Governments Employers, as we the people pay their Salaries and Insurance and Retirement.

OUR employees, the government, need to listen up and do what is right.

Obama said it in his recent Dec 09 war speech "RIGHT MAKES MIGHT."

And, as the American people are being attacked by Banking Institutions and we are all essentiallly at war with the Attacking Employees of Bank of America and other servicers and Investors, OUR RIGHT DOES MAKE OUR MIGHT !

I think it is total BULL CRAP when anyone thinks that it is US / "We the People, against THEM / Our Goverment..

We the people are supposed to be the Government, PERIOD.

And the Governemnt, Being OUR PAID EMPLOYEES, need to squash these Corrupt, Abusive and Victimizing Banks, Servicers and Investors, like the Poisonous Attacking Army Bugs THEY are.

NOW ON TO YOUR POST -

Posted by Davephx

From a Mortgage Modification Attorney

11/20/09 - Bank of America processors tell me that they get 120,000 “requests†per day. To get down to issuing a modification, they take the longest of any lender or servicer that I have worked with.

For those who do not qualify for a Home Affordable HAMP modification, Bank of America offers a forbearance plan, which capitalizes your arrearage, that is, adds it to the total balance, and then raises your payment, without lowering your interest rate.

If you do qualify for a HAMP modification, Bank of America says it can give you a provisional lower interest rate and payment provided you are more than 30 days late. Otherwise, if you are current on your loan, you are still eligible for a HAMP modification – other things being equal – but you will have to wait 60 to 120 days, during which time you will have to continue making your current payments unless you want to risk going into foreclosure.

Bank of America is one of the lender/servicers which took the TARP money from the Feds and therefore was obligated to offer HAMP modifications. However, there are cases where Bank of America does not own a given loan but merely services it, and if the lender which is the actual owner did not take the TARP money nor sign onto the Obama Plan, then that lender, prepresented by Bank of America as servicer, is not obligated to give you as good a modification or any modification at all.

Bank of America has plenty of staff to originate a record number of new loans but not enough staff to handle modifications and so is making modification applicants wait longer than any other lender.

If a Borrower does not qualify for HAMP because his deficit is too large, Bank of America will try to qualify the Borrower under its own HOPE program. Under HOPE the monthly payment can be higher than 31% of gross income, and the interest rate might be higher than under the HAMP program.

After many months of waiting, a Borrower will generally be approved for a trial payment plan, where he will make payments for three months. Payments cannot be paid online. They can be mailed in by ordinary check or sent by Western Union. They are best paid by check over the phone.

When a trial payment plan is set up, most lenders will send out a letter outlining of the terms of the trial payment. Bank of America may or may not send out a trial payment letter. You may have to press for such a letter so you will know when payments are due. Each lender has its own excentricities.

Source: Mortgage Modification Attorney Bank of America<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
 

THANKS2U

LoanSafe Member
Thanks Irishgal

Here is an artilce from the New York Times.

Why is HAMP failing .

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/business/economy/06gret.html?_r=2


In my opinion congress, OUR PAID FOR EMPLOYEES, needs to LAWFULLY force ALL Banks who took any TARP funds to modify the Predatory loans of distressed homeowners, into Permanent and Sustainable Mortgages.

This would be in the form of Interst Rate reductions and PRINCIPAL REDUCTIONS combined whenever necessary

And for those Banks that did NOT take TARP funds, those supposed free and clear banking Institutions, need to also be Lawfully forced to modify any and all PREDATORY LOANS, as none of the discriminatory and defrauding loans would have ever transpired, without and Predatory Loan Banking Institutions turning a blind eye to what they themselves caused and or was right in front of their eyes....

But the Banks and Servicers and Investors, one and all, chose to take the easy cash and run, rather than saying these loans are Predatory and Illegal....

The Banks, Sevicers and Investors are 100 % responsible for this entire Predaory Loan insanity and they must be forced by law to make things legally right again.

Especially Anyone earning under approximately 70,000 a year gross and who is paying more than 31 % of their income for PITIA needs to be modified !


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/business/economy/06gret.html?_r=2
 

THANKS2U

LoanSafe Member
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Thanks Slim Shavings for the link far BELOW

Here is my opinion on that DEC 7 09 article overall

Countrywide's old chief of operations was probaby a Big Sack of Shiit to CW borrowers & Condoned Predatory lending, his name is Jack Sackofshit.

Sorry, I digress momentarily to Countrywide's / Bank of America's level.

His name is actually "Jack Schakett" and I apologize Jack if you are an honest person, who truly wants to help distressed borrowers & help those borrowers who were coerced and manipulated into PREDATORY LOANS !

ARE YOU AN HONEST AND ETHICAL PERSON MR. SCHAKETT, WHO IS TRULY HELPING DISTRESSED HOMEOWNERS WITH MODS ??????????

A SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE MR. SCHAKETT, IF YOU EVER WISH TO ANSWER HERE ON THE LOANSAFE FORUM...

Mr. Jack Schakett is now working for Bank of America as their CREDIT LOSS MITIGATION STRATEGIES EXECUTIVE... AKA ??? whatever....

NOW, IN MY OPINION

LET US NEVER FORGET THAT BANK OF AMERICA IS ALWAYS LYING !!!

WELL, I AM EXAGGERATING A BIT -

BANK OF AMERICA IS LYING 98 % OF THE TIME WHEN IT COMES TO CORRECTING ALL THE PREDATORY LOANS & MAKING PERMANENT & SUSTAINABLE MODIFICATIONS... PERIOD END OF STORY

And B of A will never do any better until they are literally forced by Law to do better

Here is a FACTUAL & HONEST post from WATTSM -- Thank You !

JACK SCHAKETT - the former Chief of Operations at Countrywide is now the loss mitigation guy at BofA? The same Countrywide that had to settle because of their illegal lending practicing? Obviously there is no accountability whatsoever with any of these companies. It's the equivalent of a bank robber being rewarded with a job as the security guy at the bank.

Anyway, the reason why 2/3 of the people haven't returned their documents isn't because they're liers and cheaters, it's probably because they haven't been told what they need to do, or the consequences of not completing the required paperwork in time. I have been told 10 different stories by people at BofA. The cynical side of me would say that they're whole process of dealing with homeowners in trouble is designed to make the homeowner fail-- you're never given a consistent person to work with, or if you are that person never calls you back, you're given numerous different stories to confuse you, you're given false hope over and over again only to be let down in the end. The process drags on so long that you're numb to it all, you basically lose the urge to fight, then they tell you that you haven't given them enough information. The whole thing is a sham. Sorry, just needed to vent a little.

NO NEED TO SAY YOU ARE SORRY - YOU ARE SPEAKING THE TRUTH !


AND - Here is a - Right On - post from Worried Welder

This whole process and the press releases by the BofA execs are infuriating.

I'm sure there are plenty of people that haven't done their due diligence and completed the documentation.

Many of us, however, have done everything that has been asked of us and quite possibly much more. All the necessary docs have been properly filled out, signed, and provided to the bank....only to be told that we are missing docs.

Last week B of A sent out 50 thousand "notices of incompletes," specifying exactly which documents the borrowers needed to submit to fulfill the modification requirements.

"We did it in express mail envelopes with return express mails with a time frame to stress our sense of urgency of what it requires to get this done because we don't want these customers to loose an MHA modification if we can help it," Schakett told me. He says the response will be very telling.


I was mailed one of those very packets....not 3 days after I returned every single document that they requested!!....and I know they got it because they signed for it!

Why are these people CONSTANTLY claiming that we are not returning the docs? I would love to see how many people have actually returned all of the required docs that the bank claims they haven't received.

I'll bet the number is staggering....yet, they continue to blame us so that they can't be held accountable when they deny all of the HAMP mods that are awaiting final approval once they pay back the TARP funds.

Anybody seen the movie The Sting? I feel like I'm being played.....<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

NOT ONLY ARE YOU BEING PLAYED THEY ARE STUFFING YOUR MODIFICATION PAPERWORK INTO THEIR PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE PINATAS AND BEATING THE LIVING LIFE RIGHT OUT OF YOU !

It is a beat up the borrower psychologically and financially GAME !!

If you somehow survive their Victimizing and Injurious Abuses, MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, YOU GET A MOD - A BIG MAYBE !!!

But you'll still have lots of SADISTIC cuts and bruises from their passive aggressive PINATA pulverzing beatings on you, just because they can !

AND - Here is a to the point post from our fearless leader MOE BEDARD

You know what's funny? When they were giving you all loans, they got your paperwork and closed in 30 days or less. At closing you got wine and cheese with a nice $5.00 card from your loan officer.

For some reason I didn't hear of a paperwork crisis when the mortgage boom was happening. mmmm, that is just so wierd.....<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
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<!-- google_ad_section_start(weight=ignore) -->Moe Bedard
Founder


WEIRD INDEED MOE - SINISTER & SADISTIC WEIRD !


Here is the link to the article

Bank of America: 2/3 of Borrowers May Lose Government Mods - CNBC


KEEP ON FIGHTING EVERYONE - WE WILL WIN !
 

davephx

LoanSafe Member
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Tuesday Committee Meeting - Interesting or another false PR opportunity?

2/7/09 - Washington, DC – House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) today announced that the committee will hold a hearing entitled “The Private Sector and Government Response to the Mortgage Foreclosure Crisis” on Tuesday, December 8.

Who: House Financial Services Committee
What: Hearing: “The Private Sector and Government Response to the Mortgage
Foreclosure Crisis”
When: Tuesday, December 8
10:00 a.m.
Where: Room 2128, Rayburn House Office Building

Panel one

• Ms. Molly Sheehan, Senior Vice President, Chase Home Finance (JPMorganChase)

Mr. Jack Schakett, Risk Management Executive, Credit Loss Mitigation Strategies (Bank of America)

• Ms. Julia Gordon, Senior Policy Counsel, Center for Responsible Lending

• Dr. Anthony B. Sanders, Distinguished Professor of Real Estate Finance, Professor of Finance School of Management, George Mason University (conservative, free market economist)

• Ms. Laurie Goodman, Senior Managing Director, Amherst Securities, LLP

• Mr. Bruce Marks, Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America

Panel two

• The Honorable Herbert M. Allison, Jr., Assistant Secretary for Financial Stability, U.S. Department of the Treasury

• Mr. Michael H. Krimminger, Special Advisor for Policy, Office of the Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation

• Mr. Douglas W. Roeder, Senior Deputy Comptroller Large Bank Supervision, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
 

davephx

LoanSafe Member
12/8/09 GREAT Congressional Committee Testimony
at least at end by Congress comments and regulators vs banks.

4 hours of testimony just concluded.

Prepared remarks of all the speakers at
House Financial Services Committee

I heard live the last about 20 minutes was very very very good - outraged committee members drilling the OCC guy etc.
I made some live notes at http://www.loansafe.org/forum/loan-...g-another-false-page-ranking-opportunity.html

Our screams are being heard.

Will probably be massive media coverage from the Committee Hearing today 12/8/09. I expect the usual pr excuses from the Banks but from the brief at the end of the hearing that I saw live Congress is very upset and tired of the not getting paperwork excuses.

Democrats (Frank and Walters especially) have introduced new legislation especially to help unemployed. As the result of the Committee hearing I expect more legislation and from the tone of what I heard, a lot more pressure on not only the servicers but also the regulators to get the servicers to comply with HAMP and get more mods done.

I don't have time to begin to keep on with the media reports coming out. But our problems have become well known both in the media and in Congress vs the banks excuse of not getting paperwork.
 
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